How Long for TRT to Work? Even though my last cbc in August revealed I was … We had no aromatase inhibitors or SERMs and we did just fine, though there were a few that had side effects that could be related to estrogen. I been doing a bit of research and it appears the standard testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage is about 100 mg of Test cyp a week. TRT differs from anabolic steroid usage, in which supraphysiological dosages are taken to raise levels above normal. Other side effects such a acne, sexual dysfunction (in either direction) are reported. So I decreased to TRT dose again for a couple weeks and took nolva ( left AI off as I didn't want ED). When I reached the point where the only ones beating me were on. Besides, my sport was “Olympic style” weightlifting, so strength was only part of it, not all of it. How Do I Know if My TRT Dose is Too High/Impacting Me Negatively? You can thank me later or come back and tell me how you wished you had taken my advice. Should I self adjust it to a lower amount or just wait the 3 months till I get my blood work done? How much varies again, but I'd say 10 mg EOD would be more than enough - about 35 mg/wk. My test levels were at 2200+ and the gym gains were insane but I have now split my dose in half and I'm taking much less. esides, my sport was “Olympic style” weightlifting, so strength was only part of it, not all of it. Do I have to Cycle Off Testosterone Replacement Therapy? More productive? Emcon456. 24. ... lipids are fucked etc the dose is probably too high (barring present genetic abnormalities regarding lipid management). 200mg/week without an ai…even at daily injections that seems like it would aromatize…. Did you start using anabolic immediately after starting or only when seriously competitive? Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Furthermore, a total T reading of 700 might be perfect for one guy, allowing him to reap all the benefits of TRT, but that same level might not be right for you. I experienced night sweats and less than ideal sleeping (waking up throughout the night), feeling flat energy-wise. However, I do think this was more a factor of the length of time we were “on” than the particular dose. How To Stop TRT Therapy? Damn that’s crazy high for TRT yeah I’m going to ask him. What I hate about isolating the way I feel is that…I also take adhd medicine daily that has similar side effects(mild) to what could be too high test, too high estrogen, too low estrogen. In any event, you should be doing injections twice a week, whatever the dose ends up being. Since I self administer I could do 100 mg twice a week instead, i don’t know if I should ask him if that’s cool or just go with what he’s saying and then see if there’s any negatives after 3 months. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. Reduced anxiety? Follow docs protocol till you get bloodwork. 26. High estrogen conversion? It's vital to be aware of the potential risk, so doctors need to be careful when prescribing TRT to men with high hematocrit levels, red blood cell disorders, and obstructive pulmonary disease. The pros of doing daily IM in the delts has nothing to do with the placebo of injecting everyday thus feeling like you’re more stable or flat right? The latter protocol is using 31mg more and you can clearly see I’m aromatizing more and it’s as if that extra 31mg goes towards estrogen. 2) LH does not have just the one function of sending the message to create more testosterone. Fatigue may be caused by too low testosterone, too high or too low estrogen, too low vitamin D, nicotine, bad eating habits, a combination of the above, or a … normal test, low e2, total estrogen 20x too high. Excess body hair growth – also known as hirsutism, this can be an undesirable side effect of TRT. November 22, 2018, 11:52am #1. It’s exactly how you would imagine your test level being at around the same number every day to feel. The pros of doing daily IM in the delts has nothing to do with the placebo of injecting everyday thus feeling like you’re more stable or flat right? Now I have ED again... Is there a chance estrogen is too high and causing ED? Having too high of hematocrit levels for too long could possibly cause an issue. If that’s what your doc prescribed run it until the next test. How to monitor TRT dose Today, 01:00 PM Thomas B. Repas, DO, FACP, FACE, CDE, is an endocrinologist, lipidologist and physician nutrition specialist in clinical practice at the Regional Medical Clinic Endocrinology and Diabetes Education Center in Rapid City, SD. What about thyroid labs, TSH, free thyroid hormones? How Long for TRT to Kick in? Break it into 2 100mg shots. Just split your current dose to twice weekly and give yourself at least a month to get used to the new protocol. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. This is a very good, and interesting question, one which I do not think there is a one size fits all answer. I didn’t experience excess androgens once weekly dosing, but more shot frequency did make a huge difference. I have also used AS, mostly deca. I’m thinking of going 70mg 2x/week or 20mg daily. The point is you are using less testosterone on a daily protocol. The “more is better” mindset was something that we discovered was not correct. My simple timeline of protocol since May: 100mg test cyp/week 12 weeks 1500 iu/week HCG Mono 160mg test cyp/week last 4 weeks. When I did once a week I would feel really jacked up the first few days and lethargic later in the week. it could be an indication of the start of gynecomastia (formation of breast tissue, sometimes shortened to gyno in testosterone discussions). Make sure you are reading the Rx right. Most of what you’re feeling is likely because you’re doing a large amount at once. When you switch there will be a period of time that your body needs to get used to the change (Just like any protocol change on TRT). I've been trying to titrate my weekly TRT dose down to see what the lowest amount is that I can get away with without losing a high quality of life, good libido, good state of well-being, no brain fog, etc. Gil T answers this common question about Testosterone Replacement Therapy: Is my TRT Dose Too High? Not All Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) Is Created Equal. High Estradiol Symptoms: Soft erections, inability to maintain an erection; water retention (less frequent urination), leading to excessive sweating, blood pressure spikes or high blood pressure (from the water retention) insomnia; hot flushing (flushing around the ears or on the face) But TRT has few proven benefits for people, especially younger males, with normal or high T levels. The fact you’re asking what’s the signs of a therapeutic dose is too high tells me you haven’t experienced it yet. If too high it can cause unwanted side effects. What do you mean by fucked up? Doing more frequent injections helps feel level. If your levels are too high or too low, they will stay that way until the medication dissipates over time. I feel great and I’m happy. Good advice given to me at one time was “don’t look for something you do not want to find.”. 200mg is a high starting dose. I have just started TRT this week and had my first injection of Testosterone Cypionate 100mg on Tuesday. This creates a couple of issues. It’s possibly worse or the same compared to when I was at 160mg/week it’s hard to tell really. Of course, after a couple of months with my strength dropping, my work capacity diminishing, I was ready to crank it up again. What is your dosing schedule? I have PCP appointment tomorrow to talk why 100mg isn’t efficient for me. How high up did you get in the sport? The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Symptoms of high estrogen can start as early as 2-3 months into treatment. Notably, TRT did not improve energy or cognitive function. Other men will want this effect to an extent. second in my personal opinion your test levels are too high for an actual TRT protocol. While some men start TRT and never run into issues with their estroven levels (Consider yourself lucky) others aren’t so fortunate. 200mg/week daily IM in the delts using a 28g 1/2 inch needle 1CC insulin syringes. Drop the anastrozole and you’ll likely feel much better. I would have saved a lot of time had I just dropped the anastrozole and went to more frequent dosing but stayed at the same dose. I just got on test cyp at 200 mg per week via injection, I’m 23 and my test levels were at 339. What Are Signs That One's Therapeutic Dose is Too High. If so, why would you admit to AAS use + show a pic of yourself, theoretically wouldn’t any medals you’ve won be stripped? Doc prescribed 100mg but I use more from UGL test as well as UGL ai. However, some men need less and some men need more, possibly up to 200 mg. a week. Many of us found out that there is not only a point of diminishing returns, no returns, but even damaging returns. Testosterone pellets can … For those of you who have followed my TRT so far, you know that I am on Testogel (50mg per day). Started at 220mg/week with anastrozole. I will post my labs below from Quest Diagnostics and any feedback is appreciated. It's referred to as front-loading. Call and leave a message or something. If you're not experiencing any side effects hit the gym and enjoy. How many times are you injecting? In the mean time, your doctor may be trying to get your T up high and planning to reduce it after your blood work. My oldest TRT regimen at the very beginning was 200 mg Testosterone Enanthate per week, which was way too … But I doubt he’ll up it to 200mg that’s a big jump but in the end I want to stop buying UGL Test and Anas it’ll be one less thing to worry about. wolf359 January 28, 2020, 7:55pm #4. For me personally if I don't take any AI that puts my E2 in the 50's to 60's range which I think is too high, so therefore that dosage i required some AI. I really think the issue was I went from not injecting to injecting large amounts all at once. I’m asking because dbossa YouTube video matches of high TRT dose…matches me exactly. My doctor has prescribed 3mg of Arimidex per week (1mg 3x week) and everything I have read so far seems to suggest that might be too high of a dose. If haematological parameters increase rapidly, not even blood letting can control it… lipids are fucked etc the dose is probably too high (barring present genetic abnormalities regarding lipid management). You mentioned 50 mg/wk which I think is too high, and you also said every 3.5 days which is too long. For me the sign that a dose (in terms of therapeutic effect) is “too high” is simply that the level of benefit I perceive levels off and exacerbated autonomic dysfunction becomes irritating… not to say I experience any detrimental side effect aside from the sympathetic nervous system dominance… but libido increase levels off (doesn’t decrease though), energy ceases to continually increase etc. Too little estrogen, though, and you get funky arteries, brittle bones, achy joints, and run a risk of heart problems. Also, we were using supraphysiological doses, stacks, etc. I’m asking because at 200mg/ week.I don’t believe I’m at my optimal sweet spot. I also think there is a mindset where if you look for something hard enough, you’ll find it, so try not to overthink it. While I obviously cannot use my name, AAS were not against any rules when I started and actual drug testing did not start until I was on the downside of my competitive career. I’m actually prescribed 100mg/week by PCP. I did literally the exact same thing as you. The thing is, the use of testosterone is extremely patient-variable. I think just being on the forums increases the probability of having issues, I think that is correct. At 200mg a week, you’re at the most commonly used dose. The fact that TRT affects these two hormones means that testosterone replacement therapy may have the OPPOSITE of the desired effect! Some men should not be prescribed TRT because the risks of therapy are too high. theoretically wouldn’t any medals you’ve won be stripped? Testosterone Cream vs Injections: How to Compare TRT Dosage? TRT, apparently, made an instant difference to his energy levels, giving him a “new lease of life”. DHT is a metabolite of testosterone – its volume increases with higher testosterone levels. T Replacement. I want to take lowest dose possible that I am happy with. I started on 200mg a week with no AI and after a bit it felt like too much. HPTA Restart after TRT: HPTA Restart Protocol Yeah, do that long enough and you will get sick. Just as Paracelsus indicates, whether testosterone replacement creates a poisonous or beneficial environment is largely dependent upon how the medication is … I'm not saying do 200mg twice a week. You’ll be fucked up in no time. and for me, testosterone was usually at 400mg a week but sometimes I went to 600-800mg, though briefly. Did you start using anabolic immediately after starting or only when seriously competitive? The rest were remedied by more frequent injections. I bought UGL Testosterone to go up to 200mg and been doing that since August. Less lethargic? In CKD, kidneys don't make enough of a hormone called erythropoietin (EPO), which your body needs to make red blood cells. If estro gets to high you will know and report it to doc immediately. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone levels. When TRT patients have testosterone levels permanently in the high range, LH is largely shutdown. Some feel better with more, and some with less. Testosterone Gel vs Cream. Testosterone is an important hormone. What were the cons when you were dosing 220mg/week twice per week that you no longer experience on current protocol? Ask your doctor why that is the dose he picked. @Emcon456 I knew it wasnt enough cause I had already gone through 100mg protocol with him a year before and 160mg/week with a highpull. Gyno went away and I restarted blasting dose a couple weeks ago with 0.25 of adex twice a week with injections. I think just being on the forums increases the probability of having issues. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the Testosterone community. I also think there is a mindset where if you look for something hard enough, you’ll find it, so try not to overthink it. I’m asking because dbossa YouTube video matches of high TRT dose…matches me exactly. 2. The Endocrine Society, a group of experts in this field, recommend against TRT in these men (Bhasin, 2018): People with a history of prostate or breast cancer. As with any medical intervention, the benefits of Low T therapy must be weighed against the potential risk of adverse reactions or “side effects”. With a weekly bolus dose, you could be using far too high of a dosage and not even realize it, or too low of a dosage conversely if you are getting your blood test too close to your last bolus dose administration. Your can manage E2 with an increased dose of anastrozole, or more frequent injections so you don't spike as high. IF you’re going to follow that. However, this can have terrible long-term side effects. 28. Bein jacked to the nines and generally awesome as F. 2 Likes. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Sleep better? You can reduce aromatization/side effects by splitting that dose into twice a week or EOD injections. I have had two different Doctors during my time on TRT, one prescribed 200mg every 6 days and the other prescribed 240mg every 7 days, seems kind of high to a lot of folks but my free test is pretty low compared to my total and it makes a difference in my quality of life to be a bit higher than most, just my opinion based on my situation I reached a point where at the end of the cycle I always felt I was ready to get off and take a break. Beyond that amount and you're pretty much on a mild bodybuilding steroid cycle instead of testosterone replacement. Thank you. I’ve read 200 mg is a really high amount and I’m not on any estrogen blockers. My dick works as good as it gets, no oily skin or any other issues. It’s just smooth. It’s hit or miss... I’m on 500mg of test enanthate and I haven’t needed an ai whatsoever, If you split the dose in half and did 100mg twice a week i think you'd feel better. With bro-science bodybuilder TRT of 250 – 300 mg per week, yeah, I probably could have achieved this physique on just “TRT”. Who shouldn’t get TRT? 1. I never did labs on 200mg/week at his office I just know a general ball park range of numbers because I remember them very well on 160mg…for example on 160mg I was taking .125mg anas 3x week so what I did now for 200mg is .25mg 2x week. Besides total testosterone and free testosterone, what tests/values are useful if you think you have low testosterone: LH (luteinizing hormone), FSH (follicle stimulating hormone), prolactin, and a full thyroid panel. The […] I asked a similar question but want other people’s experiences so I know that I should lower my dose as I know somethings off. But, to answer your question, yes, pain and soreness around the nipples is a side effect of high estrogen. I out lifted stronger guys because I was more skilled, and I was beaten by guys not as strong as me who were simply better athletes, faster, etc., more skilled. Could be other reasons like sleep apnea but doubtful. This is why labs are useful, if you were daily dosing this point is moot. If you knew what my estrogen was you’d shit a brick. He has me dosing once per week at 200 mg per week right now. Is my TRT Dose Too High?. Yet most men lose testosterone with age. Many athletes and bodybuilders have been known to go to extremes and take doses as high as 800 mg a week for muscle development and strength. 1) Testicular Atrophy – This is partly a cosmetic/ego issue, but could also result in permanent atrophy and sterilization. That’s the top end of what is typically prescribed and you’re quite young but it’s best to move forward and just check as directed. It’s better than 100mg. I only need 7mg daily (49mg weekly) to achieve levels 400> and estrogen at 33, or 20mg EOD (80mg weekly) to achieve the same levels (±25 ng/dL) except estrogen is now 53 pg/mL. 1 Like. A dosage that brings one guy’s total T levels to 700 might only bring yours up to 500. On a 50mg twice weekly protocol, even though my Free T levels were 29, it felt like Free T was low. TRT should start at about 100 mg. a week and be given in bi-weekly (twice a week) subcutaneous injections (not intra-muscular). 200mg makes my face very oily…my face looks shiny a lot…thankfully I don’t get acne. Dear Nelson, I am a 67 year old hiv positive man who has been on TRT for years. This is probably a result of being on too much Test for too long. Using AAS years ago, our drug cycles were pretty much dictated by what we could get our hands on, and what we could afford. @Emcon456 And the risks may outweigh the benefits. Too high a dose will provoke a landslide of other side effects like too high E, and it makes the TRT more complicated. It doesn’t matter. TRT clinic. I probably would have been fine after a while had I not read about the cancer that is “high E2”. Instead of boosting fertility, TRT can cause azoospermia (no viable sperm produced) by up to 40%) All of these risks could make testosterone replacement therapy a less-than-effective infertility treatment for men. 27. Average Trt Dose Testosterone enanthate, also known as testosterone heptanoate, is an anabolic and androgenic steroid (AAS) drug used to treat low testosterone levels. I out lifted stronger guys because I was more skilled, and I was beaten by guys not as strong as me who were simply better athletes, faster, etc., more skilled. Eventually dropped to 100mg/week and dropped the anastrozole. For instance, we start up TRT believing that fatigue must be caused by low T and discover down the road that isn’t necessarily the case. He seems conservative on it and idk how to bring up in words to him why I don’t feel my best at 100mg. If you have a good doctor listen to him and next time you see them ask about splitting your dose to 2x per week. 100mg weekly is more common starting. Didn’t feel amazing. Trt High BP and hematocrit : Male Anti-Aging Medicine: 1: Nov 30, 2019: TRT, since doc increased dosage.. starting to have physical symptoms of high estrogen: Anabolics: 6: Aug 12, 2018: trt. To your question, look for fluid retention, nausea, hypertension, insomnia, fatigue, an overall sense of feeling ill, but you can’t really describe it. When you switch to smaller shots you don’t have those issues. All of these things increase the risk of clotting events as a result of the hematocrit increase caused by TRT. Don’t follow that. Testosterone: The male sex hormone. 200mg/week without an ai…even at daily injections that seems like it would aromatize…what did you notice that was better personally after switching to this protocol? Is that you in you’re profile pic? Every 2-3 months I went up 20mg and found I actually feel best at 200mg and that the AI was causing most of my issues. - Do I have to Cycle TRT? – Using trans-dermal patches is popular with some men, although it has been known to cause skin irritation with many patients. It can boost libido, increase muscle mass, sharpen memory, and bump up energy. 25. Bein jacked to the nines and generally awesome as F. If I’m not mistaken Danny is on “daily” dosing, you are on 100-160 weekly. TRT Dose Too High? For most men, 100 mg. a week of either ester is enough for effective TRT. 90% chance that your estrogen gets over range w/o AI on that dose. 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